(This was intended for social media use,, because I keep hearing the same stupid things about the virus and needed to have a template so I can answer. Feel free to copy paste anything you need, if you need it).
Also I know there are many people that are in a very bad financial situation right now because of the virus, but if you can send even 10 cent via paypal it would help. Please don't send money if you have financial problems. Keep your money for you and your family.
I compiled a list of
questions and answers because I am bored to keep typing the same
shit. This is a first draft but I thought what the hell just upload it. Someone might find it useful.
1. Covid 19 is more
deadly than the flu.
No it isn’t. Based on the stats it currently has a 0.2% in people from the age 10-39 and a 0.4% in people from the age of 40-49. After that it goes up as you age. In these percentages are included people with pre existing conditions like cancer, heart problems, auto immune diseases etc. At the same time obesity and smoking is also included.
No it isn’t. Based on the stats it currently has a 0.2% in people from the age 10-39 and a 0.4% in people from the age of 40-49. After that it goes up as you age. In these percentages are included people with pre existing conditions like cancer, heart problems, auto immune diseases etc. At the same time obesity and smoking is also included.
2. Yeah but these
stats are still higher than the flu.
Agreed. But the
problem here is that we don’t know how many people have the
disease. So far we test people that are suspected to have covid19 or
people that have been admitted to the hospital or have died with
cononavirus. That means that the people that just stay home and ride
the virus out and the people with no symptoms are not included in the
cases.
Based on a recent
article, in Iceland they tested 10% of the population (in random not
only the people I mentioned above) and found out that from the 1600
that were positive of the virus 800 had no symptoms. That means that
the denominator of how many people have the covid19 is at least
double the cases we have today. That would half all the above death
rates in question 1. That makes it as deadly as the normal flu.
Another thing that
makes covid19 less deadly is that the CDC stated that if someone dies
WITH the virus, they die FROM the virus. That makes no sense for a
simple reason. If someone has the virus and is asymptomatic (as we
saw above that can be even 50% of the deaths) and dies from stage 4
cancer, classifying him as dead from Covid19 is stupid.
A good example on
that is AIDS. AIDS by itself doesn’t kill you. But even the flu can
kill you since you don’t have any immunity. If we classified that
death as flu that means there are 0 deaths up to date for AIDS.
See the video for
proof:
That drives the
death rate up, up to 50% as we say above. Another thing that makes no
sense is that now doctors can assign you a coronavirus death
certificate even without testing you for it.
“COVID-19
should be reported on the death certificate for all decedents where
the disease caused or is assumed to have caused or contributed to
death. “
Again this makes no
sense and is highly unscientific to do
so:
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvss/coronavirus/Alert-2-New-ICD-code-introduced-for-COVID-19-deaths.pdf
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvss/coronavirus/Alert-2-New-ICD-code-introduced-for-COVID-19-deaths.pdf
Again that drives
deaths up. So we can clearly see that the death rate might even be
even lower than the flu. And yes it appears that it spreads more
(although there is no such proof yet hence why all the death rates in
the US models proved wrong).
3. If this is true
why hospitals are at their limit?
That’s a great question and that’s one of the reasons for the lock down. Government across the world have not paid much attention to the increasing need for more ICUs and beds. Either due to immigration or either due to the fact that we live unhealthy lives (come on, did you wash your hands as much before? There are countries that 30% of the population doesn’t wash their hands after leaving the bathroom), or due to the fact of an aging population (see Italy), the hospitals can’t deal with illnesses not just this year but every year. Although it is easy to google for it, I did it for you:
That’s a great question and that’s one of the reasons for the lock down. Government across the world have not paid much attention to the increasing need for more ICUs and beds. Either due to immigration or either due to the fact that we live unhealthy lives (come on, did you wash your hands as much before? There are countries that 30% of the population doesn’t wash their hands after leaving the bathroom), or due to the fact of an aging population (see Italy), the hospitals can’t deal with illnesses not just this year but every year. Although it is easy to google for it, I did it for you:
This is from
2007:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1936949/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1936949/
Just because you
hear about it this year, it doesn’t mean it didn’t happen before.
Overall, the CDC estimates that 12,000 and 61,000 deaths annually
since 2010 can be blamed on the flu. Globally, the World
Health Organization (WHO) estimates that the flu kills 290,000 to
650,000 people per year.
Blame your
governments for not employing enough doctors and not buying enough
ICUs. Lock downs is a way to cover their asses. Do you really think
these people care so much for you that they would close down the
economy to protect you? What are you? 12 years old?
4. This is bullshit.
Look at Italy.
Ah yes the dot in
the graph that doesn’t match the other dots but everyone is talking
about it. As I mentioned Italy has the second highest percentage of
elderly people in the world. If you bothered seeing any of my links
before you can see that the virus is exceptionally scary (like the
flu) to old people.
At the same time
Northern Italy has quality of air (pollution) that can be compared
with China’s. There is a direct link based on the study here:
https://impakter.com/covid-19-link-with-air-pollution-italys-and-chinas-experience/
https://projects.iq.harvard.edu/covid-pm
Again this is
nothing new about Italy (as with many other countries to be honest)
This is an article investigating excess mortality in Italy for the
periods of 2013/14-2016-17. More than 68,000 deaths attributable to
flu epidemics were estimated in the study period. Italy showed a
higher influenza attributable excess mortality compared to other
European countries. especially in the elderly.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/31401203
Would you look at
that. This has happened before. How come the media didn’t tell us
about it? That’s rhetorical of course. How come you didn’t see
army trucks carrying dead or cemeteries not having enough space back
then? Just because something the media doesn’t show you, it doesn’t
mean it is non existent.
Finally look at
this:
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-18/99-of-those-who-died-from-virus-had-other-illness-italy-says
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-18/99-of-those-who-died-from-virus-had-other-illness-italy-says
“More than 99% of
Italy’s coronavirus fatalities were people who suffered from
previous medical conditions, according to a study
by the country’s national health authority. “
And also look at
this:
https://off-guardian.org/2020/03/23/italy-only-12-of-covid19-deaths-list-covid19-as-cause/
in Italy, Covid-19 is listed as the cause of death even if a patient was already ill and died from a combination of illnesses. “Only 12 per cent of death certificates have shown a direct causality from coronavirus,” said the scientific adviser to Italy’s minister of health last week.
https://off-guardian.org/2020/03/23/italy-only-12-of-covid19-deaths-list-covid19-as-cause/
in Italy, Covid-19 is listed as the cause of death even if a patient was already ill and died from a combination of illnesses. “Only 12 per cent of death certificates have shown a direct causality from coronavirus,” said the scientific adviser to Italy’s minister of health last week.
So take the number
of deaths in Italy and reduce it to 12%. See how this dot falls in
line with the other dots?
5. What about the
Hart Island in NY? The cemeteries are full and they have to bury the
dead there.
Seriously if you
search for Hart Island the first result you get is this:
“A spokeswoman for
Mayor Bill de Blasio said on Thursday that it was likely some
coronavirus victims would be sent
to Hart Island, where for 150 years New York City has buried its
unclaimed dead and those whose families are too poor to afford
private burials. “
THIS IS HAPPENING
THE PAST 150 years!!! But again, they left that small detail out.
6. Why people test
positive even after they are cured?
The tests currently
used are not the best ones and if you search PCR tests wiki in Google
you will find this:
It lists the test
limitations. But that has as a result that someone goes to the
hospital, he is diagnosed positive in coronavirus and when his
symptoms go away he takes another test that this time it says he
doesn’t have the virus. He goes home and then goes back to the
hospital because he doesn’t feel good. He gets tested again and he
is positive.
Obviously the exit
test he got was wrong and while he tested negative he was still
suffering from Covid19. Once the immune system has antibodies you
can’t get sick from the same disease. Your body knows how to kill
the virus.
7) Governments
sacrifice their people for the economy.
Let me first start
by saying that if you believe this you should take an economics 101
class. It will help you with all aspects of your life and especially
it will help you in a way that people don’t look at you like the
idiot that you are.
By destroying the
economy of a country you destroy its healthcare. Remember when I
mentioned above that the politicians use the lock downs to cover
their asses because the healthcare of the country sucks? Now imagine
if the economy gets busted. Do you think the situation will improve?
Do you think money grow on trees?
Hospitals need ICUs that cost money. Hospitals need to employ doctors and nurses that need salaries. Hospitals need medical equipment like, I don’t know… MASKS AND VENDILATORS! Also their machines need maintenance. Who do you think is gonna pay for all that?
Hospitals need ICUs that cost money. Hospitals need to employ doctors and nurses that need salaries. Hospitals need medical equipment like, I don’t know… MASKS AND VENDILATORS! Also their machines need maintenance. Who do you think is gonna pay for all that?
Also forget any new
drugs that fight viruses because no money means no more research and
development. You wanted that cancer drug at some point right? Yeah
not gonna happen.
With the lock downs
how many people lost their jobs? How many people lost their
businesses? Daddy government can pay for some months some welfare but
to do so it needs to increase taxes. As I mentioned contrary to
popular belief of people with no economic knowledge, money don’t
grow on trees.
People that are
young and without pre existing conditions need to go to work and
protect the ones that are older and sick. This is win win.
We already have a
surge of suicides because of the lock down:
Man commits suicide
as he missed wife in
lockdown
https://www.deccanherald.com/national/coronavirus-man-commits-suicide-as-he-missed-wife-in-lockdown-823182.html
https://www.deccanherald.com/national/coronavirus-man-commits-suicide-as-he-missed-wife-in-lockdown-823182.html
A California teen
girl died by suicide — likely while grappling with the stress
caused by coronavirus lockdowns, according to reports.
https://nypost.com/2020/04/12/teen-commits-suicide-likely-over-stress-from-coronavirus-lockdown
https://metro.co.uk/2020/03/25/teenager-19-kills-fears-will-stuck-inside-coronavirus-12453434
Coronavirus lockdown has led to increase in suicides, police chiefs say as fears grow that domestic violence and sex abuse are also on the up
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8192449/Coronavirus-lockdown-led-increase-suicides-police-chiefs-say.html
8) Who cares, lets
stay in till this is over. Social distancing etc
The reason our
species is successful is because from the early days we were able to
form packs and be social so we can cover each others’ deficiencies.
One will hunt, the other will cook, the other will treat the people
etc etc.
Social distancing
and isolation (along with a bad economy) leads to many problems.
While you will save some people from Coronavirus, more will die from
suicides, depression, lack of exercise and malnutrition etc.
At the same time, if
we accept the findings of Iceland many of us already have the virus.
Locking us up with our elderly parents and grand parents will only
increase the chances that they will get infected.
At the same time
snitching on each other is a great way to destroy any kind of
cohesion our society has. Finally something that has helped us all
these years was herd immunity. Yes it works. Yes you need to read
about it to understand it. It doesn’t mean we should all go out and
get sick. But given Iceland more or less we already are sick.
https://thefederalist.com/2020/04/03/why-severe-social-distancing-might-actually-result-in-more-coronavirus-deaths/
Coronavirus Lockdown Is Taking A Toll On Mental Health, Especially Among Women, Study Finds
Teen commits suicide
because of the lock down:
Finally many experts
and epidemiologists have spoken about our over reaction to this
virus:
Montana physician Dr. Annie Bukacek discusses how COVID 19 death certificates are being manipulated:
Perspectives on the
Pandemic Episode 2: In this explosive second edition of Perspectives
on the Pandemic, Professor Knut Wittkowski, for twenty years head of
The Rockefeller University's Department of Biostatistics,
Epidemiology, and Research Design, says that social distancing and
lockdown is the absolutely worst way to deal with an airborne
respiratory virus. Further, he offers data to show that China and
South Korea had already reached their peak number of cases when they
instituted their containment measures. In other words, nature had
already achieved, or nearly achieved, herd immunity:
Dr John P.A.
Ioannidis is a professor of medicine and professor of epidemiology
and population health, as well as professor by courtesy of biomedical
data science at Stanford University School of Medicine, professor by
courtesy of statistics at Stanford University School of Humanities
and Sciences, and co-director of the Meta-Research Innovation Center
at Stanford (METRICS) at Stanford University.
Oxford Epidemiologist: Here’s Why That Doomsday Model Is Likely Way Off
https://www.dailywire.com/news/oxford-epidemiologist-heres-why-that-doomsday-model-is-likely-way-off
Stanford Professors: Coronavirus Death Rate Estimate Likely ‘Orders Of Magnitude Too High’
A Fiasco in the Making? As the Coronavirus Pandemic Takes Hold, We Are Making Decisions Without Reliable Data
Dr. Wolfgang Wodarg
Stanford Professor: Data Indicates We’re Severely Overreacting To Coronavirus
Finally I will close
with the words of Benjamin Franklin
“Any society that
will give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve
neither and lose both”
